Sore Winners
Posted Jan. 5, 2007 at 11:47 am by Mike SeelyChris Van Dyk got a killer assist from basketball hater Nick Licata during the I-91 campaign. Licata, like many of his City Council colleagues, thinks craft fairs, performance art and potlucks featuring organic Rice Krispie Treats are what make a "world city" (this is not to dampen Sir Nick's considerable strengths in other policy areas and always welcome candor). And like Chris Van Dyk, Licata seemingly can't take his citywide I-91 win and go pop some bubbly — he's got to commission polls to show that no one really wants the Sonics around (full press release and results after the jump). With this, I'd like to issue a challenge to Licata and Van Dyk: 2-on-1 hoops, you guys v. me, first to 21 (by ones). If you guys win, I'll shut up about I-91. If I win, you guys will stop trying to spread your anti-basketball sentiment east of Lake Washington and south of Boeing Field (feel free to fuck with Everett).
From: Nick Licata [mailto:nickjlicata@msn.com]Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:38 PM
To: urbanpolitics@speakeasy.net
Subject: [Urban Politics] Urban Politics #226, 1/4/07 COUNTY SUPPORT FOR SONIC SUBSIDY
Urban Politics #226, 1/4/07
By City Councilmember Nick Licata
COUNTY SUPPORT FOR SONIC SUBSIDY
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COUNTY SUPPORT FOR SONIC SUBSIDY NOT THERE
Today I released the results of a poll of King County residents about tax subsidies for sports teams. With the Washington State Legislature set to convene on January 8, the Seattle Sonics basketball team is preparing to ask state Legislators for hundreds of millions in subsidies for a sports arena in Bellevue or Renton.
In November 2006, Seattle voters overwhelmingly approved, 74 percent to 26 percent, Initiative 91 that directed the City to refrain from subsidizing the Sonics or other professional sports teams.
I had the poll conducted of all King County residents to determine if the results of the I-91 vote in Seattle would be reflective of voters outside the city. And it was. King County voters by an over-all margin of 2 to 1, favor the exact wording of I-91, whereby taxpayers require a fair return on their tax supported public subsidy of a professional sports team.
On December 26-28, 401 King County voters were read the proposed ballot title for a King County initiative that contained the same language as Seattle’s Initiative 91. Fifty-three percent strongly supported or supported the proposed initiative while only 25 percent opposed or strongly opposed it. Support for the proposed initiative was strong across the board—from Bellevue to Renton. Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, alike, favored the idea by two to one. This poll will allow our state Legislators to honestly tell special interest lobbyists that the voters of King County do not support a public subsidy for the Sonics.The poll was conducted by Elway Research for Licata, the Service Employees International Union, Local 775, and Citizens for More Important Things, a taxpayer watchdog group.
Here is the exact wording used by Elway Research in its survey of 401 King County voters on December 26-28:
"Recently voters in Seattle approved a measure related to the public financing of professional sports facilities. A similar measure could be put before voters in the rest of King County. I will read the proposed ballot
title:
‘If enacted, the measure would require that for-profit professional sports organizations pay the County at least ‘fair value’ for goods, services, real property, or facilities the County provides or leases from them, either directly or through another public entity or a non-profit organization. The measure defines ‘fair value,’ based in part on the rate of return for 30-year Treasury Bonds. Any King County resident would have standing to file a lawsuit challenging County that allegedly violated the measure.’
As things stand today, if that measure were on the ballot in King County, would you… Strongly Support It…25 percent Support It…28 percent Oppose It…11 percent Strongly Oppose It…14 percent Don’t Know/No Answer…22 percent"
The poll’s margin of error is plus or minus 5 percent.
Topics: Sonics
Comments
Generally one defines strong support as 60% plus. 53% is hardly a solid majority with a plus or minus error of 5 percent.
Posted Jan. 5, 2007 at 12:14 pm by MarkSI-91 was just dumb policy thats going to result in seattle center losing all its teams to the suburbs. Extending it county wide is just dumber. Good luck getting business friendly suburbs like bellevue to buy into that.
nick Licata must believe everyone in King County is a rich white symphony goer like himself.
Posted Jan. 5, 2007 at 1:10 pm by KCWI-91 is the political equivalent of a drive by shooting.
I can understand the resentment of the Sonics but the T-birds Junior Hockey team is also a casuality of I-91. Those who play in minor league teams are not millionaires.
The T-birds also had issues with Key Arena and wanted to move back to the Mercer Arena their original home which opened as a hockey arena in the 1920's. It is now called the Mercer Arts Arena and sits empty.
Yeah I guess there's a real demand for arts in Seattle Nick Licata.
What have you got against Everett Mike? We love our minor league sports teams up here.
Besides the last time a group of Seattle radicals tried to impose their will on Everett resulted in something called "The Everett Massacare".
Posted Jan. 7, 2007 at 11:40 am by Mark StockerI love Everett. Spent tons of time there as a kid on account of my Dad working there. Remember seeing Terry Mulholland pitch in rookie ball for the Everett Giants, which makes me feel old.
Posted Jan. 7, 2007 at 5:22 pm by SeelyRegarding Licata, what a mother fucker this guy is, huh? And how about these service employee lackeys? They always want more shit for themselves, all the while taking shit from other people or making sure other people don't get their shit. Fuck all these mother fuckers with a rake!
Posted Jan. 8, 2007 at 12:59 am by Johnson