"They're Illegal Aliens!" And Other Outbursts From Norm Dicks' Town Hall Meeting In Bremerton
This is sampling of what my neighbors in Bremerton and the rest of Washington's Sixth District had to say to Rep. Norm Dicks at his town hall meeting tonight. Yes, I'm focusing almost exclusively on the incendiary remarks of a few. This is the narrative that dominated the evening. Although the room was split about 60/40 against health care reform -- seriously, any health care reform attached to Obama was getting booed out the door -- the contentious, sometimes hostile meeting was full of AM radio soundbites.
I'll have my photos and some audio clips from the evening up tomorrow morning. Promise. For now, here are a few of the outbursts, comments, and exchanges
Guy: What I am is a 70-year-old frustrated veteran who's sick and tired of a president going around the world and bad-mouthing the country I served ... We are stuck with a congress and an administration which believes it can stomp all over the U.S. Constitution and the free enterprise market (washed out by groans and cheers, and talk of czars) ... an administration more concerned with protecting terrorists than defending the actions of the CIA.
Dicks, a couple minutes later: ... 47 million uninsured ...
Random Guy Among the Shouting: "ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!" (We heard this several times.)
Some Guy: How many of these 47 million people that go to the emergency room for health care are actually U.S. citizens?
Crowd: Big cheers.
Dicks: "I would say about 95 percent."
Crowd: Massive Boooooos.
One random guy: Can I have those corroboration numbers?
Dicks: The president, when he ran, as president said he was going to let people stay with their insurance if they like it.
Crowd: Liar....Liar....Liar ....NOT TRUE!
One resident -- who, of course, talked over almost everyone she disagreed with when they were speaking -- during her turn at the mic: Wow, I thought we were supposed to respect each other.
Dicks: First of all, there are a lot of other countries ... that have a national health insurance program, and they are very satisfied with them.
Guy in the Background: And they suck!
Lady in the Background: They are not satisfied!
Other Guy in the Background: This is America!
A Woman: Hello, Sir, thank you, I think you are very brave to do this. I am a mother of eight. Five of my children are adopted -- praise the lord -- but my children are with me because they were not aborted.
Another Woman: How can you guarantee me that these 47 million (people) will take one dime out of their pocket and pay for health insurance when they will still be able to go to the emergency room and get it for free?
Crowd: Cheers.
Random Guy: They're illegal aliens!
Guy Named Leroy: I wanna know what's your take of people bringing guns to this type of a forum. We've got a new black president and I'm concerned.
One Guy: It's a red herring. It's a distraction.
One Woman: People with guns would protect you.
Dicks: Well, Leroy, I would hope that we can have a civil discussion in this country and that people don't think they have to bring a gun to have a civil discussion.
Guy: We have two dynamic groups here tonight. Cap and Trade was rammed through. This is getting rammed through.
Dicks: I don't think anybody would say it's getting rammed through at this point.
Guy: It's still getting rammed through. You people need to slow down, read the bill, because I spent 20 years defending this country and you people are throwing it down the toilet with reckless spending, reckless congress, and you cannot tell me that 47 million people that are uninsured are U.S. citizens. That is a bald face lie.
Crowd: Medium cheers.
Dicks: Could you repeat your last comment? I didn't hear what you said.
Guy: The 47 million people that are uninsured. Most of them are not U.S. citizens.
Dicks: Oh, that's not true.
Guy: That is true. That is very true.
Dicks: We'll get you the numbers. They're American citizens. Period.
Guy: No they are not. And that is a lie.

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Donald says:
To the individuals who have been listening to oxycontin addicted radio hosts .... I don't have health insurance and I am a caucasian (aka white) male, 55 years old, born in the United States. Since 2003 I have been uninsured more than I have been insured due to corporate layoffs, right-sizing, whatever you want to call it. I know many other American citizens personally who have suffered the same fate.
You have closed your mind to the fact that many of the uninsured are American citizens, many of them children.
Do you close your mind because it's shameful that we have uninsured American citizens while other countries do not have 47 million uninsured people living in their country?
Is the cost of the uninsure higher than if we insured them all?
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 6:28AM
confused says:
Why did Mr. Lundberg ask Mr. Dicks what his personal views about abortion are?????? If life begins at conception???? Off-topic????
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 8:15AM
Chris K says:
@Confused: Someone did ask Rep. Dicks when he believes life begins. He didn't answer that question. He said he believed women had the right to choose.
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 8:34AM
Brenda says:
People should have IO tests to vote in this country.
At the very least a working knowledge of civics... a little common sense would come in handy.
I feel like an extra in "Deliverance" (cue banjo music)....
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 11:15AM
BlackJack says:
It's depressing that something this important is being derailed by such stupid, stupid people. Are there idiots like this in other countries? There has to be, right? Why do we bother listening to them in this country?
IQ test to vote? IQ test to procreate.
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 1:14PM
confused says:
Brenda, what is an IO test?
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 4:57PM
Molly says:
Those yelling people are right. In California over 10% of the population was on welfare as of 2000.
They are supporting a permanent underclass, and going broke doing it.
We have identical illegal immigrant policies.
If you want to have a third-world country in your back yard, do it on your own dime.
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 4:59PM
Christian says:
This just goes to show you how low the stupidity and ignorance of the Republican mind set can go.
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 8:13PM
David says:
When someone can only resort to personal insult, they have obviously lost the argument.
Posted On: Tuesday, Sep. 1 2009 @ 8:21PM
Comrade says:
Nice, unbiased reporting here. Terriffic work, comrade!
What really happened was concerned citizens asked questions of their elected representative and he (Mr. Dicks) side-stepped, ignored, talked over and otherwise did not answer many of their questions. Meanwhile the union-backed minority in the room badgered septuagenarians yelling in their faces calling them liars and bullying them with a total disrespect I've come to expect of their ilk.
Posted On: Thursday, Sep. 3 2009 @ 12:58PM