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Duff McKagan

All Apologies

By Duff McKagan, Thu., Feb. 11 2010 @ 9:07AM
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Duff McKagan's column runs every Thursday on Reverb. He writes about what's circulating through his iPod every Monday.
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I was in a recording studio the other day and had some time to kill. If I am not reading a book or writing, I will often scavenge around for a newspaper or magazine. On this day, I came across Cobain, a tribute put out by Rolling Stone some months after Kurt's death in 1994.

I can't really pinpoint the reasons, but suddenly there in that dingy studio, I was enthralled and emotional. I read this book from beginning to end, and while of course I remember this time well, I don't think the scope of the sadness came to me until this moment. A profound sadness that stirred up a lot of emotion that maybe I haven't dealt with yet. I don't know, to be honest.

I was on the same plane as Kurt on that flight up from Los Angeles a couple of days before his death. We were both fucked-up. We talked, but not in depth. I was in my hell, and he in his, and this we both seemed to understand.

When we arrived in Seattle and went to baggage claim, the thought crossed my mind to invite him over to my house then and there. I had a real sense that he was lonely and alone that night. I felt the same way. There was a mad rush of people there in public. I was in a big rock band, and he was in a big rock band. We were standing next to each other. Lots of people stopped to gawk. I lost my train of thought for a minute, and Kurt said good-bye and left to his waiting town car. His new house was right down the street from my new house. I received a call from my manager two days later that Kurt had died.

I suppose I was numb to this sort of thing at this point in my life. I had lost two of my best friends to drug overdoses. People in my own band had overdosed multiple times. My life and addiction were spinning out of control, and my body was failing in so many different ways. It is possible that I was incapable of feeling sadness, incapable of picking up the phone and calling Krist or Dave. In truth, I had such low self-esteem at that point, that I am sure I felt my call would have no impact on these fine men.

I had been really excited back in 1991 or so, when bands from my hometown of Seattle started to rise up and get recognized for magnificent music. I was proud because I knew the scene there was truly unique and self-supporting and open to new and different ideas.

A few years later, at the MTV Awards where my band and Nirvana both performed, I blew my lid when I perceived a slander toward my band from the Nirvana camp. In my drunken haze and drug-induced mania, I heard what I wanted to hear, and I went after Krist Novoselic backstage. I had no control of myself then. And Krist, I am sorry for that day.

Krist, my colleague and friend, I am so sorry for your loss, too. I am sorry I could not be your friend back then. We had so, so many things in common. We have so many things in common today.

I am sorry that I didn't have the faculties to just come up and talk to you at the MTV Awards in 1992. I was mad and insane then. My scope of dealing with any sort of conflict had narrowed down to barroom brawling. Kim "Fastback" Warnick, my mentor, called me the day after my embarrassment and scolded me for it. I felt so low. I simply did not know how to call you and apologize then. My dream of being in a band that everyone in the world believed in had come to life. The complications that came with that dream were also making themselves present. You were dealing with the same things I was. We could have had a lot to talk about together.

I am glad that you have overcome that mad season in your life. It takes a strong man to have that sort of devastation not permanently handicap you. Your band should have been one of those that kept setting new benchmarks for what a rock band is. Your career and vision was cut short. We musicians just don't talk about this kind of stuff, thinking maybe it's a little too touchy-feely. We are expected to just get over it. Why, don't we have piles of money to make ourselves feel better with? If only people knew.

I am not trying to embarrass you, Krist. Maybe I am only trying just now to come to grips and exorcise some of my own hidden monsters. I am glad that we are now friends and I hope that this part of the story will last a lifetime.

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-- Krist Novoselic: Duff, We Don't Need More Politicians, We Need the Rock Party

-- Krist Novoselic: Tea Party or Rock Party? There's A Mood Brewing For Both

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Comments (60)

ed shepard says:

well stated confession of a true gentleman, all the best to you. always.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 9:36AM
Todd says:

Wow! Thursday is always "Duff Column Day" for me, but you have truly outdone yourself with this one. I was 21 in '92 and remember the VMA's that year like it was yesterday. My two favorite bands were G'n R' and Nirvana, and in a twisted way, thought the feud btween the two bands was "cool". Chalk it up to immaturity. Duff, you have been an inspiration to me for years, and your heartfelt public apology to Krist tops everything. I had the chance to meet you last April in Nashville after your show. I'll never forget that as long as I live! Since then, I have won my battle with booze(I suffered alcohol and diabetes related pancreas problems myself) have gotten in the best shape I've ever been in, and owe so much to you. Your music, your columns, and how you conduct yourself means so much to me! God Bless!

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 9:43AM
Kris says:

I feel rather like I am treading in where I don't belong here, because that was a beautifully wrought apology, Duff.

And I hope you recognize that "I am glad that you have overcome that mad season in your life. It takes a strong man to have that sort of devastation not permanently handicap you." is true of you as well. Amen. Amen.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 9:49AM
Ivy says:

Man you sure have lived and survived! I don't know you and I will never have the pleasure of ever knowing you but what you choose to share and write about can at times be astonishing. I hope your soul is a bit lighter today. That's all I have to say right now.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 10:09AM
El Hugo says:


Strength is shown in many ways, but not often do you find it displayed by words such as these.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 10:51AM
federica says:

What you say is something truly genuine and tactful.You really seem to speak from the heart.
You and Krist have had the opportunity to grow,to mature,to evolve,to keep on learning,to understand yourselves and life,to go on.Those who die too soon are not given this chance.I think that Krist certainly hold no grudge against you and he would tell you that you've got nothing to be blamed for.It's life,it's the experiences of your life,it's time,it's fate,it's just you.
Thanks Duff for sharing your emotion.
And...
All in all is all we all are...

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 11:24AM
Katy says:

I'm actually tearing up a little bit reading that. Anything about Kurt tends to have that effect on me for some reason I don't fully understand. I never had the honour of meeting him, he actually died before I knew he existed but he still managed to be a huge part of my life and like millions of other people he helped me through some tough times, just knowing that someone, somewhere out there, even if they were 6,000 miles away had felt the same way was a big comfort.

I sometimes wish I could have been there that day to tell the both of you that, against all the odds, it would be ok eventually. You'd both probably have thought I was some crazy freak and told me, quite rightly, to fuck off, but I still feel like it needed saying.

I don't know how to put into words how glad I am that at least one of you made it through that time, and came out stronger for it as well. When I think how close it came to loosing two of my favourite musicians in one year...it doesn't bear thinking about.

I'm also glad you managed to make up with Krist. The two of you do make a great team (Rock Party album ahead of the election?). :D

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 11:29AM
Androcel says:

Duff,

A true gentleman and such an inspiration specially for me as a MUSIC FAN. Always reading your column religiously every THU and Kris column as well.

P.S when is the part 2 of GN'R Story??? ;-)

Fan from the Philippines,

Androcel Alorro

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 11:32AM
Remark says:

Duff & Krist,
Brilliant insights.

We all have our own losses or mistakes that we've dealt with, or will have to deal with in the future.

Life is the greatest learning experience and we take the bad with the good. Nobody can escape these types of experiences.

We can't change the past, but we can definitely work on today. And it's always today, isn't it?

Some even believe that life doesn't end at the grave either, it's just a new beginning - so if that concept is even imaginable then in a sense we're all gonna live forever. Pretty deep philosophy, I know, but if there is any truth to it, then what we do today and how we treat others is very important, even in our mundane day to day type activities.

In order to progress in any manner, I think one of the best ways is to realize that we're not perfect and we all make our own mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, right?!! We can use our mistakes as tools to make today better and maybe even begin to forgive ourselves, which seems to be the hardest part.

We have our own free will which allows us to live and learn, or not. The choice is always ours and thats what makes life great, even when we are not at our greatest.

Today is another day, so lets make the most of it.

"I'm sorry," are probably two of the greatest words we can use. It's another expression of compassion, caring or love, at least thats the way I see it. In a world that seems to be going mad, it would be great if we can remember to use them more often. Maybe we can't express them verbally as much as we'd like. Maybe there are other ways or things we can do to help ourselves and others.

Extra special thanks to Duff and Krist for being able to talk about these things that most wouldn't even dare to approach. Just amazing.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 12:11PM
Brad Cox says:

Guns and Nirvana had a lot in common - but, the mass population parted the seas - as it were.

I think your outburst was more of a 'Territorial Pissing' and quite forgivable.

I was/am a big Guns/Nirvana fan - I was extremely inspired by Axl's artistic approach (lyrically) and the diversity of your music [as a whole] - yes, even 'My World.;' conversely I loved Kurt's more laid back, deceivingly-simple yet direct approach; held together by a killer rhythm section.

I recently watched a documentry and recalled the MTV Nirvana incident and I instantly got a sense of anger; I loved BOTH bands.

It reminded me of high school, when liking GNR became uncool (around 93') - it didn't bother me as much then - but I dislike the way lofty individuals can make you feel; I feel I've had to deal with my own issues and popularity contests and it can trigger outbursts - plain and simple!

I think bands like Poison, were a little more directly responsible for Kurt's outburst, as well - it just happens Guns were the biggest hard rock band in the world and in the broadest sense it was more of a territorial dispute - Guns actually were more alternative/punk (in mentality) and some people knew it, but most hadn't taken the time to notice.

It didn't seem from a social perspective they [Guns] were going to be allowed to lead the pack [again] when alternative was established as a genre [in the macro-sense]. It was a social changing of the guards.

The threat was probably mutual; a real, 'You won't take what I've worked for,' and 'YOU won't take what we've worked for.'

In a perfect world, both bands could co-exist - and did. It all reminds me of a rant Axl did in Chicago [before Jungle] @ a Smashing Pumkins concert [I think it was]. You could tell it was wearing on him, too.

You [Duff/Guns] came to the MTV show after already transcending a lot of obstacles and they were the new dogs in town.

This was well put, man; don't beat yourself up, too much! I think most people realize you're a genuine cat.

What was it like being label mates, duing the chaos; I'm sure Geffen was pretty stoked to have an internal rivalry?

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 1:20PM
Tony says:

Duff McKagen
Krist Novoselic
Paul McCartney

The world's classiest bass players in all sense of the word. It's amazing now that we're all getting older...we're slowly starting to see that our mothers were right all along.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 2:07PM
Sophia says:

I don't really know what to say, except what a great, heartfelt post this week.

I was born the year Cobain died, so I obviously have no memory of him. But when I started getting into rock around 13 years later, I found Nirvana. Something about that music spoke to me - the way it made sense but didn't at the same time, the raw power of the music. As a budding, pissed off teen who was searching to find myself, the music was very comforting. It made me feel like someone understood what I was going through and how I felt. There's been more than one time that I've thought about Kurt's untimely death and have been filled with a huge amount of sadness. I never personally knew the guy, yet in a way I felt like I did.

I admire you for being able to open up and share this with the world. We have all made some mistakes and said some things that we shouldn't have said. We have to live and learn, and in my 16 years on this planet I've come to believe that this is our purpose for being here. We never stop growing or cease to try and understand ourselves.

So I thank you. Through this post, you have definitely taught me something this Thursday. I wish both you and Krist the very best :)

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 2:09PM
Janean says:

Duff,

For what it is worth, I am proud of you.

And more than a little in awe of your fearlessness in sharing your 'feelings' with anyone, much less everyone.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 2:09PM
delilahsue says:

Duff-
I have started referring to Thursdays as "Duffday" since every week I look forward to reading this column.

One of the most amazing things about you, Duff, is your ability to convey yourself in words that I, personally, could never imagine any man I know saying or thinking.

And all I can say to that is that I think I need to make friends with some different men!

Thank you for allowing us a peek in the window of your heart- and sharing a bit of your soul.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 2:57PM
richard says:

Duff

I was born in 1980 so when GNR and Nirvana came into my radar i was between the ages of 11 and 13. (I distinctly remember playing Back Off Bitch LOUD as a snotty teenager cos I knew my pain in the ass aunt was coming round lol)
Anyway I loved both bands so much and still do and im glad that you have addressed this in such a genuine and thoughtful way. (Dont listen to BOB so much these days but im pushing 30 now man, cant keep the angst up forever!)

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 3:02PM
Steve Keller says:

Duff,
I'm fom Michigan following your weekly blog and wanted to say congratulations on overcoming personal demons! I just won your Guns n Roses/Velvet Revolver pack you donated for St. Jude's Charity. I wanted to say thanks for the great items!

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 4:19PM
Stari says:

This was so beautiful and heartfelt, that I am almost speechless. You are an amazing man with a lot of heart. And I am glad that you were able to survive those turbulent days, and to be the man you are today.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 4:42PM
Tristan says:

Great read, Duff! Thank you for sharing your insight on these situations. I had always wondered what the back story was with that feud. Guess it just comes down to the alcohol lol Glad that you are in a better place now. Best wishes.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 4:58PM
CHOLA says:

One of my dearest friends, gives me a black eye everytime I see her.I havnt seen her in person for atleast 2 or 3 years, but we talk on the phone atleast 2 to 4 times a day everyday, we are true soulmates, I suppose:)Ur lucky you guys dont break ur base geeeetars on eathothers heads, cuz thats what my girlfriend and I would do if we both played the base.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 7:36PM
Anonymous says:

I think this person right above me just needs to stay away from that devil juice and read that lame ass book that seems to work wonders for people who have an alcohol problem.Like what Tristan said "ALCOHOL" "LOL"sometimes it's other substances too, that create barriers and violence towards people or towards themselves.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 9:06PM
Nicole says:

"It takes a strong man to have that sort of devastation not permanently handicap you."
And it takes a strong and great man to admit that you said/did something wrong and apologize for it.
Thanks for sharing another private and personal memory with us.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 2:25AM
Sophia Shaikh says:

Duff,

From what I can gather from having spoken with you a few times, you seem to be an extremely down-to-Earth man, one who is aware of those around him. The same may not have been so true at the time you mentioned in your article, but your situation was very different, and your addiction veiled the person I believe you really are (while not an excuse, it does go some way to explaining things). It may be naïve of me, but I'd like to think that, even in his troubled state of mind at the end of his life, Kurt might have recognized on that plane trip that the two of you were on the same journey in more than one way. Thankfully for your family, friends and fans, you made it out and are still with us. Sadly, Kurt wasn't able to overcome his demons, and will missed by many for a long time to come.

This article is a beautiful apology to Kurt, Krist and Dave. As @Kris said earlier, I hope you realise that you and Krist have BOTH come a long way, and should be proud of yourselves. I'm really glad that the two of you are now such good friends - it shows how time, growth and circumstance can change things.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 2:59AM
Elvifera says:

Duff,

Thank you so much for sharing this emotional moment. It’s weird how some things that we’ve done in the past might remain in the shadow of our own thinking, into denial, sometimes for years, until the day it rises to the surface, being triggered by a “coincidental” element. Then we’re suddenly bound to face those past actions and their consequences. It’s hard to accept and to acknowledge how harmful to others the way we did behave might have been. But at the same time, it’s absolutely liberating! As you explained, suddenly a flow of sadness overwhelms us…and then the only thing we think of doing is actually apologising. Not as much as to save our face or regain our credibility in the eyes of the person we might have hurt, but simply to repay them justice somehow. That’s probably the most honourable thing to do, and you just accomplished it.

Last week, something comparable happened to me. I realised how much pain – more or less accidentally – I caused to someone a long time ago… reality struck me like lighting… and I felt so, so sorry when I realised…but then what else one can do than accepting the facts? Facing the facts is actually the biggest part of the cure. I wish I could meet this person once again in my life (I don’t have any contact info anymore), & tell her how sorry I am. I’m sure one day we’ll meet again though. Just need a little patience…

By the way, thank you for being such an inspiration in my life. I’ve had hard times & big downfalls, but thanks to great human beings like you, who’ve achieved so much, yet have been able to remain so honest, noble, humble & genuine, I’ve always been able to find the strength in me to stand up and keep going.

Kiitos tosi paljon!!! (“Thank you very much” in Finnish)

Looking forwards to reading your next column entry!

Elvifera (from Tampere, Finland)

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 7:44AM
Tiz says:

Duff man, that was so heart warming!!!!
It's ok....Eddie Vedder says "The sorrow grows bigger when the sorrow is denied" and I believe it! Now, I'm fortunate enough not to have gone through the shit you guys went through, but I have people very close to me who are in recovery and I "know" how difficult it is to deal with pain when a fix can just take it away. But that time comes (if you fight your demons) and when it does, isn't it freeing?
I must have been 10 when I heard you guys for the first time ("I used to love her" was the tune)and though stupidly attracted to Axl, I have always been drawn to your persona, something about you....Now, 21 years later, I know why! Because of your NOT Wasted Heart!
You rock Mr. McKagan, this world needs you!

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 10:07AM
Mad_Mama says:

I'm late in reading my favorite column this week. But am delighted to see the quality of comments so far. I think we are all on the same page.

I love Brad's reference to Territorial Pissings - that, I'll bet, is exactly what it was!

Thank you for your honesty and I'm not the only one who teared up a bit while reading your column this week. Kurt was really tortured and had more demons than most. With living in constant pain as well, it's almost no wonder that he decided on a way out.

We'll be taking a family trip to Aberdeen in a couple weeks, to see Loaded on Friday, and then spend Saturday having Wade show us the Cobain haunts for some photo ops. Probably run out to the ocean since we'll be that close.

Sunday, we'll be at the Showbox for the Haiti benefit - hope to see many lovely Seattle music folks there. I think I will bring my "Grunge Is Dead" Greg Prato book. Would love to have Kim Warnick sign it, and you as well.

Breathe deep, Duff, and know that you are important to us.

Thanks!

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 11:42AM
Kim Warnick says:

Wow. This just made me cry because I remember all too well that terrible morning when we heard the news that he had killed himself. I was working at Sub Pop at the time and it was the most surreal day ever. It's still so sad and always will be. So many people gone way too soon. And did I really scold you? Oh, and see you tomorrow!

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 12:24PM
Brad Cox says:

Wow KIM; you just 'caused me to experience synchronicity. I did a Wiki search for The Fastbacks - I'm not even sure what the catalyst was; I think I had been telling my guitarist to check out the song 'Pictures' (10 Minute Warning) and somehow ended up there.

When I pulled up the page...well, ya' know!

Well; I'm sure you have your share of stories.

My whole life seems like synchronicity, lately - so, that was kinda a cool surprise.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 8:39PM
Bill Blathermouth says:

Why does anyone care what this fucktard thinks?

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 8:48PM
merkin51 says:

Why do you care so much about why other people care so much to come and comment on this post, Bill? You complete fucking cockmunch.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 12 2010 @ 11:51PM
Anonymous says:

Duff,

This was quite touching, thanks.

Kurt Cobain reminds me a lot of the famous Dutch painter ,Vincent van Gogh. The only difference was when van gogh died he was "largely unknown". There could have been some way that Kurt's life would have been saved, Would have loved to see this blue-eyed guy living a normal happy life.

Everything looks like it was yesterday. And i can only say- "La tristesse durera toujours" (the sadness will last forever).

Peace!

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 4:58AM
Leza says:

for that and so many other reasons, duff is my rock n' roll hero.

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 7:32AM
Brad Cox says:

I've been a GNR/Duff fan for a very long time.

I won't lie [the long story short is] the reason I found this board was because of a song called "_Mutha Fucka," and we'll leave it at that.

Since the inception of Loaded, Duff has been VERY easy to get in touch with and very cool about responding to posts/emails on a regular basis [his email addy was even on his website, at a point].

A couple years back [I want to say 2001ish] I wanted to have my band open for his band [Loaded], in the mid-Atlantic, but I think they ended up going over to Japan (if memory serves).

Regardless, he always seemed accessible.

So, I saw this as a good way to reconnect and re-introduce myself and that's that; as I told Mad_Mama, there's a fine line between being 'cool' and being 'obnoxious' and I've tried to avoid the latter.

Point being, people like Duff because he's down-to-earth; it's really that simple - he keeps the playing field even and doesn't act like a big-bad rockstar or I wouldn't bother.

So, as time passed, I've come to meet a lot of the people on this board and build friendships with like-minded individuals.

So, that's really it...

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 9:34AM
Mad_Mama says:

Just read through our comments this week. Glad to see we have gotten back to thoughtful responses (for the most part). I really don't think we are a bunch of kiss-asses, as some seem to state with overblown hostility.

Um, not that I'm implying you are a preacher, Duff, but your columns give us things to think about for days, just like our old beloved Pastor did. His name was Ed Markquart, of Grace Lutheran Church in Des Moines. Considering the thousands of church-goers who have gone there over his long tenure, I imagine mentioning his name will bring a smile to lots of faces right now.

Anyway, his talent was in his sense of humor, and his refined ability to tell a good story. He had LOTS of stories of his own life, and I always found him to be engaging and his topics always on-point.

I'm a casual, very very occasional church attendee, but I'm a very very regular attendee to the weekly Duff stories found here.

We appreciate your thoughts, and that you share so much with us. Keep it up - I'm sure there's more good stuff in there that you want to tell us.

PS - Thanks Crad - you're a good man. Hope to see you out here sometime! Or, on the road with Loaded/VR, etc!

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 2:22PM
Homer from Tacomer says:

Duff, you've come a long way, baby! Thank you for being so open and honest. That's some real shit...

@Brad Cox

You're in the right place if you're looking for other people who are inspired by Axl Rose's artistic expression...are you joking or just need your art spoon fed to you?

Kurt Cobain seemed to show us that in order to write good songs and have something to offer artistically, you should try to lose your ego and transcend your primal monkey nature and focus on things a bit more high minded. Like compassion, empathy, the human condition. You know, be a real man. Not fighting, over indulgence and groupies.

He influenced and challenged men to rise above the example tools like Axl were setting for our country back then on the world stage. Even if ultimately he couldn't live up to his own integrity or ideals. In this world, a valiant effort that will be applauded and respected and lamented forever. He changed the culture. That's a true artist and why his apotheosis took place.

I always start to miss Kurt this time of year...


Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 2:32PM
Heather says:

thx duff for sharing that, it was one of the most honest things i read in a long time.

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 2:51PM
polly wants a white guy says:

Yeah, I agree, when Axl went on that childish rant on Kurt & Courtney and their baby in front of a packed concert audience, calling them names he could have called themselves, he didn't do Guns any favors representing his band that way.

It came across as jealous, petty and hypocritical. Embarrassing moment that Axl should have apologized for if he didn't.
What was Axl saying to his audience in general anyway? At least Kurt and Nirvana seemed to be trying to say something.

Now we have John Mayer and Wyclef Jean...

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 3:42PM
Brad Cox says:

@ Homer - Puree'd works. ha!

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 13 2010 @ 7:13PM
Kaymo says:

Hey Duff,
Like so many others above I found your column very touching this week. I look forward to reading your Thursday and Monday writings and am never disappointed. In fact you often cheer me up if I'm having a tough day teaching. It says alot when someone can make such a public and heartfelt apology.
K

Posted On: Sunday, Feb. 14 2010 @ 7:27AM
Katy says:

It's sad that a column about transcending the ridiculous media-fueled "feud" between two bands has to descend so rapidly into "Yes Kurt was great, Axl sucks!"

Are songs about fictional hairdressers, working as a janitor or bodily functions (or erm..beans?) really any more deep and meaningful than songs about coming to terms with living without the love of your life, the futility of war or being willing to give people a second chance?

Yes those are somewhat extreme examples but the point still stands. Appreciation for one artist does not necessitate putting down another, no matter how different their styles might be. If someone has something to say and the guts to get up and say it they deserve respect, even more so if millions of people around the world find themselves identifying with that.

I'm probably a bit biased because Guns and Nirvana will probably always be tied as my favourite bands. Both these men (and their respective band mates) have spoken to me on levels I don't think I knew existed and I can't imagine being the person I am today without them both. As a teenager I was equal parts hurt and amused by the "feud" and as an adult (technically) I find myself relieved and full of respect for these people that they've been able to put that behind them. Too bad their fans can't be the same way.

(Also cyber-cookie to anyone who can guess all the songs referenced above. :D)

Posted On: Sunday, Feb. 14 2010 @ 1:53PM
Brad Cox says:

@ Katy - Right on!

I put a response up last night, regarding people who insinuate we're not supposed to like Duff, Krist, Axl & Kurt equally - I really like everything - the extremes and the obscures.

The post must not have gone through.

Guess what, I'm a big Mike Patton fan, as well.

It's b.s.; it's the same mentality that polarized the 80's and 90's and created such division amongst artists/musicians.

Sorry, I think Axl's a great artist/poet as was Kurt - the world was their stage and they made you feel SOMETHING.

Let's not forget that Guns wasn't just Axl, there were other voices and experiences that made that project a fantastic example of authentic expression.

Let's not forget that Nirvana wasn't just Kurt Cobain, there were other voices and experiences that made that project a fantastic example of authentic expression.

So, polarize all you will! If you think it would please Duff to say, 'Axl Sucks,' you'd probably be surprised to realize it wouldn't.

It's pretty obvious he's not that kind of a guy.

We're all people - we all make mistakes and we all have things we'd be embarassed of, have transcended and/or would like to appologize for.

It's called being human.

I liked both bands, equally - simple as that.

So, you can take your spoon and shove it...oh, whatever, nevermind [pun intended]!

I'm just playin', you know I love ya'. Happy V-Day.

Posted On: Sunday, Feb. 14 2010 @ 2:44PM
Duff says:

@ everyone.

You people are very gracious. this very 'human 'interaction on this forum is enlightening...and hopeful! way cool!

Duff

Posted On: Sunday, Feb. 14 2010 @ 2:49PM
Pat says:

Duff,

I just wanted to tell you that I thought of you tonight when I was with my Valentine...

But, it looks like you've already got a "#1 fan" who thinks you're a mighty good man and cares deeply about what pleases you...

and his name is Brad Cox

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 15 2010 @ 1:58AM
Brad Cox says:

FML (F*%k My Life); lol.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 15 2010 @ 9:19AM
Karamouche/Karoline says:

I had to think about what to write before posting, so therefore my late response. I still don't know what exactly what to say, except from thank you for sharing this heartful apologie. It's good to see people so honest as you are!
I've read through the comments now, and I must say it makes me happy to see we're back to normal!

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 4:42AM
Anonymous says:

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Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 1:50PM
oops says:

previous comment was meant for the article after this one, oops.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 2:46PM
check out says:

check out Krist Novoselic's article: Kurt Cobain, Alexander McQueen, and Making Sense of It All

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 2:54PM
Julie says:

I'm in the same boat as Karoline as far as knowing what to say, but I was really moved by your column this week. You're an amazing person, Duff, and it makes me proud to call myself a fan of yours.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 5:10PM
polly wants a white guy says:

@Katy

If that's all you took from Kurt & Nirvana's lyrics, you must not be much of a music listener! Maybe you couldn't really decipher his lyrics or their meanings? You're probably not qualified to comment on or defend anything... you don't want to get me started!;)

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 16 2010 @ 6:30PM
Katy says:

As I said in my post those were extreme examples. I just wanted to make the point that it's not a black and white case of Kurt and Nirvana producing amazingly deep and meaingful songs whilst all Axl did was brag about drugs and groupies or rant at people as some people above seemed to be implying.

In my original comment (no. 7) I also talked about the huge impact Nirvana had on my life, which would be pretty weird if that was all I'd taken from their songs.

I have no fear of 'getting you started', I suspect we'd actually agree on a lot of things and I love any oppertunity to talk about my favourite bands. :)

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 17 2010 @ 9:35AM
Cristina says:

Duff
when I read your column, I'm in your way of making the comments, how you became a reasonable person.
His straightforward way of putting his opinions demonstrate the sensitivity that exists in this man with so much appearance as strong ee comm while a tender heart and a very hard to find.
Of all the things I've read written by you the most m mark are talking of their times desvaríos, with drinks and drugs, but also its conscience that was wrong, very wrong, but woke up and today is an example for all young people who might commit the same mistake.
a big hug from his admiration of Brazilian fan.

Cris

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 17 2010 @ 4:00PM
Cristina says:

Dear Duff

From my contact forgot to ask you a huge favor, I believe that I live in Brazil and that is the 3rd world is difficult for you to come play here.
We also know that it was very embarrassing episode of the outage before your presentation, but, come again ...
Promise multiple batteries lest in the dark .....

bjs Cris

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 18 2010 @ 12:42PM
b says:

My perception of you just changed a bit to the better. It takes a lot to apologise sometimes and I wish you could have reached out to Kurt and that he'd accept it that day.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 22 2010 @ 2:25PM
Sciota Micks says:

A true, genuine man you are. Sobriety will do that to you, as it has for me. You took the power away from that time and event it had over you. That's what the program teaches us. Anytime you are around Laurelhurst with the family, come in for dinner at Jak's, and we have you covered.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 23 2010 @ 3:35PM
we all know says:

axls the cunt nugget here

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 27 2010 @ 10:15AM
we all know says:

axls the cunt nugget here

Posted On: Saturday, Feb. 27 2010 @ 10:16AM
MIke Lamb says:

Its so easy after the fact to say why didn't you or why didn't I do this, but whats done is done. There are so many things I'd love to say to Kurt or would of love to say to him if I were on that plane. In a way you made your peace with him. After the VMA thing I'm sure he had his opinions of you and/or the Guns camp but on that plane that mess was put to rest in Kurts mind. Maybe. What do I know, though. I grew up with the music you guys have made and I have the utmost respect. I can't help but but sound cliche but music will never ever be the same period!!!! Love ya

Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 17 2010 @ 8:34PM
karen says:

Duff,
That was the most heart felt article I have ever read, it brought tears to my eyes.
Back in '92 I was just 10 GN'R were my favourite band, but the whole debacle at the MTV Awards tainted my view and I took Nirvana's side on the whole incident and I turned my back on GN'R for many years, your music the lot. Which in hindsight was immature but that's how strongly I felt.
Just a few years ago my friend put one of your records on and it reminded me why I loved you soo much all those years ago, because the music f**kin ROCKED!
I really am happy to see that you have made amends with Krist as publicly as you have; it's really an inspiration for others to put petty arguments in their lives aside and look at the bigger picture. Thanks for that.
Karen x
P.S love reading your reviews and Krist's articles online every week, keep up the good work xoxoxo

Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 31 2010 @ 12:14PM
Mike Reis says:

Duff, that was open and honest which seems rare these days. You always seemed like a "regular" guy. This is a little off subject but are you aware of the massively growing 911 truth movement. The evidence for treason has become overwhelming and we need powerful, courageous famous people to stand up and speak out. I've been playing the rock clubs of Philly and New York for the last 20 years and my rock dream hasn't come true. However, I still use my small voice as best I can.....just curious if 911 is an issue in your mind...rock on even though Dave Navarro seems a little fruity these days.

Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 8 2010 @ 3:06PM
Matt Sore Ass says:

GNR suck donkey dicks and they know it

Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 11 2010 @ 2:21PM

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